May 20, 2007, 05:02 AM // 05:02
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Washington
Guild: Holy Angels
Profession: W/
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Interesting Farm - Large Groups/Mino
Well, Hello, Everyone knows about the HM mode scatter and all, so after some experementing I think I found some sound methods that work very well, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I havn't seen this idea around (Read on to see what my idea is)
Ok, so we all know that monsters scatter, we also all know in HM they attack faster, which gives Spiteful Spirit (SS) a nice boost, but the problem is they scatter, after trying some things I discovered that SS usually makes them "flee" to the "right", or to the "behind" of you, weird? Well I farmed HM outside Ice Tooth Cave Mino's and it turned out nicely.
---[ Mino Farm - HM]---
The Key is to find a nice corner surrounding, or a right angle (or less).
Here is the simple skill set:
Protective Spirit
Shield of Absorption
Shielding Hands
[Optional, Not Mark of Pain (tried that)]
Spiteful Spirit [E]
Blessed Aura
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Max Curses is what matters most.
When you go outside cast your last three enchantments, start off to the right, gather the Minos to the right, then take a left and gather those guys up there, make SURE you recast your spells a little before they start to blink, the Minos knock you down as you walk.
After you agro them, do a spinny circle tell you end up like this:
Then when your positive they are clumped and not going to sneak past through the right side. Cast SS and attack the guy you casted on, then right when SS recharges target another guy and cast + attack.
After they all die continue out of that little area out to the opening, aggro some of the dudes to the right and continue staright ahead to the Mino's patroling from the right and up the hill. Once you have them, spin around a corner like so.
You can keep going and get some left overs, or you can rezone and start over.
---[Canthan Rares Assasin Farm - HM]---
This can also be done with the post you saw a while back to obtain Canthan rares.
Same build.
Run across brige, aggro those, run to all the green dots and around the builds, then start running toward the boss, aggro the guys around that noble, then run back a bit to the far corner where more guys spawn, ball them up and walk toward the right corner, make sure not to get cornered, its a small space.
After you feel you are in a confertable situation, use SS.
There ya go.
You can do this with many different corners, as long as its at least a right angle.
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Feedback please?
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I have a vid, but its so MESSED up, if anyone knows why, feel free to post.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rent=Gw_11.flv
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PLEASE NOTE: Some people things that the fewer you kill instantly the less drops you will obtain, so take the groups little by little, if you want white drops.
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May 20, 2007, 05:45 AM // 05:45
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O
Guild: Officer of United Jedi [UJ]
Profession: E/
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Nice discovery, I'll go try!... Once I get my Necro ready that is
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May 20, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Profession: E/A
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yes. it works.. just tried it.. nice job finding the flaws of the scattered code.
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May 20, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]
Profession: E/
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That's kind of funny, nice find.
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May 20, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50
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#5
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Where is the canthan rares farm located? I don't know where that is you're talking about in the first post. Sorry it that's a noobish question, but I would really like to know.
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May 20, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Lotus Branca[Lbr]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnticitizenOne
Where is the canthan rares farm located? I don't know where that is you're talking about in the first post. Sorry it that's a noobish question, but I would really like to know.
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Its not a noobish question its a "noob who's too lazy to search" question. See the brown bar with "search" and a little arrow close to the thread's title? Type "Cantha rarest" there.
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May 20, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arizona
Guild: My Blue Storage
Profession: N/
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Calm down with the screaming for "use the search."
Simple answer Anti:
The Halcyon Job you get in Cavalon. The guy is standing to the left of storage.
NOT Protect the Halcyon .. The Halcyon Job
Edit: it's in an area to the left of Sskai, there's a little town right behind where Sskai is, the entrance to the town is to the left.
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May 20, 2007, 12:27 PM // 12:27
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#8
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Next to Hugh Hefner
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Nice find..
but for the assassins using the stairs is even better.. and alot easier..
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May 20, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32
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#9
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Desert Nomad
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It has been speculated that killing a big group of mobs at the same time, would you let get less common loot. I prefer to stick to Spoil Victor. THough with canthas rarest it may be worthwhile to kill them at the same time, as you only farm for the rare items.
Second thing: essence bond won't trigger with the SH/SoA build =)
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May 20, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
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Essence bond does trigger even if you are using a 105 sh/soa build. It triggers when you take dmg, the amount of dmg, including zero, is irrelevant. I do DOA titan farming on my monk and many a time my ranger partner has forgotten his balth spirit on me. If essence bond was not triggering when i got hit, i never would have been able to finish the farm w/ 2 energy regen.
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May 20, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brick.
Guild: Vanguards of Aslyum/Defenders of Amnoon
Profession: R/Mo
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O_O WHere do you find all of those Luxon Assassins?
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May 20, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16
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#12
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freneticweasel
O_O WHere do you find all of those Luxon Assassins?
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one page of topic is still too much to read...
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May 20, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In world with nothing to do except poker
Profession: W/Rt
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That cornertrick is so old Used in DoA Titangem for ages. For the guy btw who said EB Triggers when you take 0 dmg shielding hands on you, its false, you don't get energy with SH and EB, only with EB and SoA.
Those luxon assasins are in a quest what I cant remember.
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May 20, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Lotus Branca[Lbr]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by My Green Storage
Calm down with the screaming for "use the search."
Simple answer Anti:
The Halcyon Job you get in Cavalon. The guy is standing to the left of storage.
NOT Protect the Halcyon .. The Halcyon Job
Edit: it's in an area to the left of Sskai, there's a little town right behind where Sskai is, the entrance to the town is to the left.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freneticweasel
O_O WHere do you find all of those Luxon Assassins?
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You calm down -_-
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May 20, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54
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#15
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by My Green Storage
Calm down with the screaming for "use the search."
Simple answer Anti:
The Halcyon Job you get in Cavalon. The guy is standing to the left of storage.
NOT Protect the Halcyon .. The Halcyon Job
Edit: it's in an area to the left of Sskai, there's a little town right behind where Sskai is, the entrance to the town is to the left.
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Thank you very much. No "zomg ur a noob" just an answer. Thank you again for actually helping instead of sitting there and going "ur 4 nub so go awai and read teh first post!". The AREA ITS IN isn't even stated in the first post...
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May 20, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36
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#16
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Frost Gate Guardian
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The 'sins are relatively well known I think. Anyways, I knew this worked on 'sins, but not on Minos. ty.
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May 20, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Green and Pink
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Equites
Essence bond does trigger even if you are using a 105 sh/soa build. It triggers when you take dmg, the amount of dmg, including zero, is irrelevant. I do DOA titan farming on my monk and many a time my ranger partner has forgotten his balth spirit on me. If essence bond was not triggering when i got hit, i never would have been able to finish the farm w/ 2 energy regen.
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Sorry, that is wrong. Essence bond DOES NOT trigger if u take 0 damage. At the very least, I can at least confirm if shielding hands reduces dmg to 0, you will NOT get any extra energy. This behavior might have changed in the past few months so its worth it to test urself :P.
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May 20, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22
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#18
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Frost Gate Guardian
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essence bond used to trigger off -0s, I think that changed at the same time some DoA exploit was nerfed.
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May 20, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Washington
Guild: Holy Angels
Profession: W/
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Thanks for the feedback, I usually keep esence bond there if I want energy "on the run", I guess it doesn't matter.
I heard about a similar trick requiring two people where the monsters chase after second person after fleeing only to be body blocked by the first guy.
BTW other AoE spells makes them scatter in all directions...
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May 20, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13
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#20
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Frost Gate Guardian
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so if i got this straight, basically ur pulling them to the wall, then move to the right so ur 3 way sandwiching them with the 90 degree walls and urself? I can't really tell from the video =P
also, essence bond does give you extra energy even when you are taking 0 dmg, can ppl please stop saying it doesn't... the only reason it doens't is because you guys are using shielding hands instead of shield of absorption.
as for the scatter management for 2 ppl, i only found chokepoints in the UW, haven't had any success elsewhere, i think this is better for general use.
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